In thinking of the history of Siesta, I found myself drawing some odd parallels. See if they work for you.
In thinking of the history of Siesta, I found myself drawing some odd parallels. See if they work for you.
Throughout June/July 2002 there were several related threads on london.pm.
Mentioning that london.pm is run on mailman
Suggesting that if mailman were written in non-sucky Perl then they'd hack on it.
Eventually, I lost my cool (for I am not Fonzie)
From: Richard Clamp <richardc@unixbeard.net> To: london.pm Subject: Re: for those who were looking for reason to better mailman in perl Date: Tue Jul 30 00:53:03 2002
On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 03:06:44PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: > Note that I have no intention of actually finding the time to actively help > anyone re-write mailman (or majordomo) or anything else,
I must say that I'm actively bored of this subject now. I do however have a short proposal which will hopefully lead to this recurring thread going the fuck away.
To: Those that care
From: Someone who doesn't
Go form a sourceforge/savannah project which will give you
suboptimal mailing lists and a CVS repository.
Let the world know you have done this so they can find you.
Write code and argue it out amongst yourselves.
Let the world know when you get as far as being self-hosting.
I'm sorry it's not a catchy 3-step plan, but try it out anyway.
--
Richard Clamp <richardc@unixbeard.net>
This being london.pm, nothing actually happened. At least not until August 16th.
Well we were close, we ended up in California at least:
% whois sf.net Found a referral to whois.opensrs.net. Registrant: VA Software Corporation (OSDN) 47071 Bayside Parkway Fremont, CA 94538 US
369 Miles out:

The first day of hacking was 18th August, 2002. At the end of which we had.
A plan.
A bunch of code
Self-hosted dev lists.
We were rehoused at http://siesta.unixbeard.net

Nicholas provided us with snapshot scripts, so people not subversion capable could play along too.

Robin did a lot of work in converting simons PHP prototype web interface into a real Template Toolkit backed one, which interfaces to the real Siesta classes.

Tom wrote most of the output generation code for Mariachi, and provided us with nice css templates.
In the course of writing this we've had knock-on effect in working on some of the modules we wanted to use.
Email::*
Mail::Thread
Mariachi